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I just think that, you know, we need to expand our imaginations when we're talking about fictional characters. Because, you know, we didn't really get to debate, you know, Ms. So I could grow up as a young girl and be proud of who I am. KELLY: What do you make of, you know, we played some of the sound bites there. As I said in my opening, not to always assume the worst about each other. There was a controversy with "The Hunger Games" about one of the characters being portrayed as a black actress even though she is actually in the book described as a black person. Harris's position which was we need to think about changing the image of Santa. KELLY: But that, too, has brought a lot of, you know, feelings out by a lot of our viewers saying, look, you know, historically, all those pieces I referenced, all those pieces Ms. And some people are taking issue with her suggestion that the mere color of his skin in these portrayals as white is somehow alienating to black children or, as she put it, causes shame in them. KELLY: Why is it skin alienating and why is that not racist? That is really important as you developing your identity growing up. I think we can overcome the race problem in our nation. And people, I think mischaracterizing the segment by describing me as outraged over this and angry. JACKSON: OK.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)KELLY: But Jedediah, when I read the piece, the author seems to have -- you know, she's African-American. Don't we always just assume the worst and then we go on twitter and blindly say the meanest things we can possibly say. JACKSON: Well, I really appreciate your having this segment. We are going to change the way we deal with this issue over time. Also in the news tonight, is Santa Claus real and what does he look like? The African-American author of the piece, Aisha Harris, was upset about the commercial depiction of Santa Claus as white and argued that a, quote, "Fat old white man who is, quote, melanin deficient, made her feel ashamed as a child." Thus necessitating an image makeover. Apparently we ignited quite a controversy the other night in a segment about an essay that argues Santa should no longer be portrayed as a white man.

Just because my mom wanted me to have high self-esteem. KELLY: Now, we're going to bring in Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church, he is also radio talk show host. BISHOP HARRY JACKSON, HOPE CHRISTIAN CHURCH: Well, I think this is overblown. And it doesn't really matter what the skin color is.

It was a terrible experience, ruined my self-esteem, and seemed to verify all of my insecurities. I sit with them at lunch but have realized that it’s really hard for me to talk to new people, so I end up staying silent a lot.

If he’s generally polite and not abusing waitstaff or short with your mother, then it may not be the biggest problem in your marriage, but I think you should, if nothing else, pay very close attention to the fact that you’re concerned about the way your husband handles his own anger. At the end of last year, I was ‘‘dropped’’ by the group of friends I had for two years.

Many questioning whether I understand that Santa is a mythical figure. Because I guarantee you right now that if you were to walk into the home of an African-American person almost anywhere in the country, you would find a black Santa Claus, and black angels and a black Jesus. In the particular the knee jerk instinct by so many to race bait and to assume the worst in people, especially people employed by the very powerful FOX News Channel. By the way, I also did say Jesus was white as I've learned in the past two days, that is far from settled. Apparently, that website would rather sling the arrows from the privacy of its offices than allow a fair and balance debate. And she's a political analyst and writer who is also unhappy with that segment and Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church is also here. I think that it's very, very important for people of color. And so, I had a black Jesus in my house growing up. The only thing I was trying to say -- first of all, I was trying to make a joke to the kids at home. And people, I know from my viewers that they watched with their families and so on. Also later, the new warnings from doctors as millions of Americans wonder what is to become of their health care coverage under the president's health care law.

Others suggesting I am a racist who is outraged at the idea of a black Santa.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: All right. UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I think that's probably what bothered me the most about it, was the way that that Kelly and the others kind of said it so angrily. Contrary to what my critics said posited neither my statement nor Harris's, I'm sure was motivated by any racial fear or loathing. A lifetime of exposure to the very same, quote, commercials, mall casting calls and movies Harris references in her piece from "Miracle on 34th Street" to the Thanksgiving Day Parade to the national Christmas tree lighting, we continually see St. For me, the fact that an offhand jest I made during a segment about whether Santa should be replaced by a penguin has now become a national firestorm says two things. You know, I growing up, I had a black Santa in my house. I think it is really important that, you know, symbols of tradition and culture in our society reflect all of us and all of our identities. People are saying, oh, what kids are watching FOX News at at night? So, I didn't want to get in trouble like GMA did a couple of years ago when they said some bad things about Elf on the Shelf.

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